…but you can get them in blood. (A response to Laurel’s post on health care reform)
Federally run healthcare. Federalized. Healthcare.
I sat down today, and I wondered- what does the government already handle related to healthcare, that they don’t fuck up? I am not a rich person. My family is not rich. Neither I, nor my mother, has ‘normal’ insurance. I have the government program for under-21 kids and she gets free healthcare since she has no job (will touch on this later too).
I have to say, people who think there wont be long waits, substandard care, patient neglect, etc under this program… have you been in a government healthcare program before? I have, and to me, it seems as though they intentionally give you substandard care to scare you away from costing them more money.
Want an example? Well, a long time ago, I did have proper insurance. I would get dental work done, and get nasty dental shots, and I hated them- but they weren’t too bad, really. They gave you a shot in the back of your jaw, near the nerve bundles first, to numb you generally and then they would go in to do more localized shots. They had multiple needles and new needles for every patient. The needles were fine tipped, and clean.
Now, I am on the government insurance. I had to get dental work done. I had to wait a month and a half, upon referral, just for a consult- and then another three weeks for the actual procedure. If it had been a painful toothache, I would have been crying that whole time. Luckily, it was just minor pain and soreness brought on by my wisdom teeth- they needed to be removed or it would have eventually gotten worse. So, when I get the procedure done, they do not numb me first then give me the rest of the shots. They do not have nice clean needles for every patient. They have a large steel needle that appears to be older than I am, and they simply pop new vials of novocaine into them. Then they stab anywhere and everywhere in your mouth, while you’re anything but numb, and fully conscious. They do not pay for general anesthetic or any kind of ‘comfort’ features. You will feel pain. Lots of pain. The procedure, once I got past the trauma of being stabbed repeatedly in the mouth ( 20 times at least ), was not so bad… Beyond choking on the gauze they carelessly shoved into the back of my throat.
Want another example? Alright. My mom used to be on government insurance. She had epilepsy. She needed brain surgery, as her medicines weren’t handling it well enough, and she could not function in everyday life. It took multiple appeals, over a year and a half, for the government disability insurance to approve the procedure. A procedure necessary for her to function in society and have a life. They decided it was not cost effective. Only due to the good graces of a very persistent doctor did she ever get her surgery, which was a stunning success. However, they still demanded she stay on what were then, unnecessary medicines.
What am I getting at? I think you all know. The government insurance option will not be a saving grace, it will not be something to save you- no, it wont. It will be profit driven, and the care will be substandard at best. There will be little to no coverage of ‘comfort’ features, so I guess if you want it you better get used to being awake while they cut on you, since believe me they can cut you while you are conscious, but numb- and since general anesthetic is not cost effective, they will.
How can I say it will be profit driven? Simple. Have any of you read the bill? Even a part of it? I have. Specifically the parts about the panel that decides every single rule and term for the healthcare plan. The panel, somewhat un-affectionately called a death panel, is composed of a group of individuals, 1/3rd of which is appointed by the president, and not one of which must be a doctor. Not one.
Now look at the president’s record for appointing lobbyists and big business moguls, if you will, and tell me with a straight face that you think not a single representative for ‘big pharma’ will get onto that board. This board is the one that decides how care is rationed. Yes, rationed. And let me tell you, the rationing becomes much more tight once you are older and are no longer paying taxes- in fact once you get that old, the main thing they pay for is ‘end of life’ counseling where they discuss ‘dying with dignity’. Now I think end of life counseling is alright… when NOT paid for by people thinking of profit first.
Did you know, on other Federal boards like the FDA, many (I believe nearly 50%) of the members have monetary ties into big pharma? (For more info watch the movie Generation RX, they have a lot of sources and specific figures) There are rules for being on a Federal board, but most of those rules can, and have been at times, waived. Tell me, if they are bribing the FDA to allow certain medicines and keep certain test results quiet, as cited in Gen. RX, do you think that the big pharmaceutical companies and large insurance companies will not bribe the panel members anyways?
Beyond that… Beyond the fact that the panel WILL indefinitely become corrupt (look at congress and senate- bought and sold like trinkets by lobbyists), if you are willing to actually do some work, most of the time you can get free or reduced cost healthcare. My mother now has no insurance. She does not have a job either. When she goes to the hospital, she usually gets her bill written off to a charity, like Carenet. There are similar institutions all over the United States, and most hospitals (Not city hospitals, but around here all the ‘Saint’ hospitals apply for this) will write off your bill entirely, yes entirely, if they believe you cannot pay. You can get free preventative care at your local health department, and you can get free medicine from any large pharmaceutical company- On the commercials, they usually say “Can’t afford medicine? *company name* may be able to help”
It’s easy. You fill out some forms for the free meds, to see if you qualify. At the health department, you have to wait in line a while. Yes, this is boring, and it sounds like work, but rather than work and take the FREE venues for healthcare we already have, Americans are crying, and asking for mommy Government to pick us up and give us a suckle on her teat. This is wrong. Are we so inept that we can’t even stand in a line anymore? We can’t go to our local Health and Family Services board and look up assistance programs? We can’t fill out forms? No… We are begging for the Government to step in and take care of us, because we evidently are too stupid and lazy to take care of ourselves. What’s more, we are begging for the whole country, whether they use the service or not, to foot the bill. Yes, we want to ride the coattails of those who have not given up, and demand that we be taken care of because we are lazy. It is no different than a spoilt child screaming and crying when her mother will not get her exactly what she wants- and NOW.
Additionally.. I’m not a republican. I’m not a democrat. I’m me. I researched this and I drew conclusions from the facts life and study has given me. I agree that there needs to be change- so, why not regulate it like the government does when other companies get a monopoly? Prevent Healthcare from getting as big as it does- You know why they don’t? Because lots of those companies are footing the bill for a lot of people in government to live their lavish lifestyles. Campaign contributions, lavish gifts to congressmen and senators, its our government that needs reform along with the healthcare system. Allowing people already infatuated with how current healthcare works will not make life easier for us. It will lead to rationed and substandard care for the poor, with long waits because doctors don’t like dealing with Government insurance, and it will lead to raised taxes for the rest of us.
Want cheaper insurance? Start paying attention to the donations the congressmen and senators get. You’ll realize why they wont strip these large companies of their monopoly. Want cheaper healthcare? Take action to create legislation in your area or federally, regulating malpractice insurance costs or protecting against frivolous lawsuits. Want cheaper medicine? Maybe you ought to question why they don’t allow import of medicines that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars here, but can be afforded for the cost of a light lunch elsewhere. If you think our government, which willingly participates in allowing the Insurance companies to be big, bloodthirsty beasts, that outlaws import of cheaper drugs, and that botches the other healthcare systems it already runs, will save us you are SORELY mistaken. ”





mivox
The point of a public option is not that it will be the fastest, premium-service health insurance available, the point is that it will be there for people who don’t have any other choice. Much like it was there for you when your parents couldn’t afford family insurance. Maybe the dentist sucked, but it was still better than not being able to go to a dentist at all.
Healthcare reform is not about trying to ban private insurance and have the government take over the entire healthcare industry, it’s about providing an *option* for people without private insurance.
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Darling Dove
There is an option. It’s called standing in line and filling out forms. It’s not easy, but it exists.
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CarrieAnn
My partner moved here from West Virginia 8 years ago. He’s severely, rapid cycling bipolar. He had no insurance. The state would not give him insurance. The free clinics would see him but would not provide the meds he needed. We stood in more lines and filled out more paperwork than I can describe. Went to more places, too.
Because of his age, because he was a single male NO one would help him.
We’ve learned to live without the meds, at this point. But the fact of the matter is, for some – men in particular, standing in line and filling out forms doesn’t help.
Darling Dove
So, rather than rally for real healthcare reform, you’d rather spitefully force every single american to pay for his care? I admit, yes we need reform- but not from the government.
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BealzesBud
I would rally for ANYTHING that would work at least partially right now and would seem to be able to be passed. So yes, I would.
Laurel
The public option is not necessarily free for the person getting the insurance. People who can, will be expected to pay fees for their care.
That said, the reality is, DD, we are all, already paying for the health care of people who can’t afford it. You yourself offer up the option of asking hospitals to forgive your health care debt. Do you really think they just don’t pay the nurses who cared for you or that the medical suppliers offer up medicine and supplies for free because you couldn’t pay?
No, *I* pay for *YOUR* free health care through the higher costs of my own medical care. This fact has been stated over and over again in the heath care debate. This is why offering insurance to everyone will actually result in a lowering of costs for hospitals and therefore, in theory, to all of us.
Not being able to pay is not, in my experience, a valid reason to get you out of paying medical debt, as you claim. Medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy in this country (60% of personal bankruptcies).
Having spent a lifetime listening to the horror stories my mother (a nurse) brings home about how insurance companies routinely deny care that patients are entitled to, I would frankly be thrilled to let the government handle my health insurance claims. For-profit insurance companies often use routine denial of care as a cost-saving measure. They count on the fact that people will not understand they can appeal or that they will not bother to appeal. Medicare and Medicaid do not have a history of doing this to their customers. So, yes, I think the government will do a better job of paying for my health care and I think that based on the performance history of insurance companies and the government’s performance with regard to health insurance over the past 30 years.
Not only that, but offering a public option, which is really just an expansion of the public health insurance offerings of Medicaid and Medicare we have already had for 30 years, does not automatically mean that all the doctors and hospitals and dentists we have will suddenly suck. I will still be able to go to my choice of doctor and receive the same quality of care I’ve always had and it will most likely, be cheaper in the end.
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SLC Dentist
That is pretty interesting. It gave me several ideas and I’ll be writing them on my web site soon. I’m bookmarking your blog and I’ll be back again. Thank you again!